I Hate Recruiters

Tuesday, March 29, 2005

You Will Not Exist!

Ten Things I Hate About You
From: F Company

I've been gainfully employed for over 20 years. I never used a recruiter to get a job, but I have used them to fill positions.

The reasons I hate recruiters?

How about: they're lying, cheating, two-faced, clueless, scum.

They have no ethics, morals or even common sense.

They are the sort of intermediary the world wide web was supposed to eliminate -- and God knows the day will come when the entire recruiting industry will be a sorry, not-missed thing of the past.

Have a nice day!

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  • I hate recruiters just as equally because they do the phone interview and ask stupid questions that aren't related to the position. FUCK THEM ALL!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:47 AM  

  • It's hot in here. After reading all of these experiences I would be hotter than hell. While our industry needs a major overhaul,
    Not all recruiters are bad though. Why I admit being a recuriter myself you probably think I'm bias but I run my business on ethics and morals and will not stand for any of my recruiters to handle the public in such a way as described in these messages. The apple usually does not fall far from the tree so if the recruiter was bad... the management or leadership is a direct reflection. I find it an insult to have heard and continue to hear of some horrible interactions with unprofessional slime. I feel that recruiters should never try to sell a job or make non scheduled visits to anyones place of employment. This is an invasion of your life. Most professional companies will have you go meet them at their office and not bird dog you. The great thing about professional recruiters is that we source positions that are normally not advertised in papers or on the internet. The real pros in our industry continue with their recruiting education and attend conventions to improve and learn about new and more conveinent ways to reach people who are actively searching for a new career. Did you know that many of the professionals in the industry end up in top HR positions at Fortune 500 and 100 companies while others go into business. I hope that as companies continue to need human talent to grow we the professional recruiters will always keep in our minds eye the following. Ask yourself... am I doing this because it is going to benefit me or the other person? the answer should be both. If the answer is that it's going to solely benefit you, then you need to rethink your incentive or find another career because it's sbout helping others get what they want first.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:33 PM  

  • Maybe 'hate' is too common a word for how I feel about recruiters. It's more like a grumpy indifference. Every time that I have been looking for a new job - be it in the Netherlands (where I come from), or in Canada (where I live now) I've been bombarded with emails and telephones from these animated business suits.

    They promise heaven and when it comes to it, they never offer any opportunity that makes any sense, i.e. within a human commuting distance, according to skill set or whatever makes a job actually work.

    Lately the market is said to be 'hot' for Java programmers like I am, but even after two months the four recruiters that have my record on file they never, ever approached me with any suitable offer. The only time I hear from them is when they mail me asking if I know someone with a specific skill that they cannot find - hey! It was *your* choice to be a recruiter!

    And they cannot even spell properly, those sorry candidates for the Golgafrincham solution to the Middle Men Problem. Har har har.

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  • I 've been an Executive Recruiter and I hate those yuppie scum

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 5:23 PM  

  • Being a contractor, on and off, for the last 10 years, I have many stories about showcasing the ineptitude and deceit of recruiters.

    Most recruiters post jobs that don't exist to draw in candidates so they can fill their database in the event they have a client that wants a job filled quickly.

    These days, the more deceitful ones don't, can't or won't read resumes. They rely on keyword search algorithms and send out emails asking you to do their job of determining if you have the skills requested by a client. I worked writing software for a QA lab. I get several calls and emails for jobs that require testing experience just because QA appears on my resume.

    You can always spot the truly crooked ones.
    1. When you ask about a job posting they claim ignorance because they just started yesterday (never any other day, always yesterday).
    2. They call you for contract positions that are very far from your home (out of state).
    3. The ones that email you, don't even use your name, or even forge an invalid email address instead of using your real address.
    4. The post the same job offer every day, but change the verbiage slightly. they are fishing to fill their database of candidates.
    5. Used BCC to send out job emails (bulk emailer = spammer).
    6. Although its very unpopular to state this, but seems to be true nonetheless, they are an indian recruiter. The language difficultly alone makes it impossible conduct a conversation but without exception, if the recruiter is from india or has an office in india, they are lying, cheating, dishonest, and 100% totally inept recruiters. I have gotten to the point if I identify a recruiter as indian, I tell them flat out, "I don't deal with indian recruiters".

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:15 PM  

  • Indian recruiters are the worse type of recruiter, and have 4 common elements. They fail to read resumes, fail to note location and job skills on job profiles, only offer contract positions, and, most importantly, lack of communication skills.

    They send out emails for skills I do not possess. I must also conclude they have not read my resume. The complaint made by these firms is they process so many resumes they can't be bothered to read them. Since upscale recruiting firms such as Atlantis Partners, KForce Staffing, and Kelly Services are able to manage such a task, I reject the premise of overprocessing as one of laziness and ineptitude. The real major underlying reason is they have hired someone barely literate from some cesspool third world country to manage their correspondence with premade boilerplates and lack the communication skills necessary to understand what is on the resumes. This inability or unwillingness to read resumes is a major defining characteristic of indian recruiters or firms that hire indian recruiters.

    Even though it states on all my online resumes and/or prfiles, "NO CONTRACT AND WITHIN 20 MILES OF ZIP CODE", still get offers for distant contract positions. No doubt they harvested my email from a job based web site, such as monster.com, used a keyword algorithm to search for specific keywords within the body of the resume, and then sent out emails with never have read the resume itself asking the recipient if the job skills are match. Offering such out of state contract positions via keyword searching is another of the defining characteristics of an indian recruiter or a firm that hires indian recruiters.

    Despite thier delusions thier emails are not Spam, it is.
    The characteristics of SPAM are simply that the email is:
    1. Mass mailed
    2. Commercial in nature
    3. Not requested by the recipient
    4. Sent without a prior business relationship
    Their email was commercial in nature, I did not request nor authorize them to send me emails, and I never contacted said firm previously. I did not even send them my resume requesting information about a job offer. Using the methodology and mindset of the spammer (I should know, I worked for one) - mass email out offers and out from that multitude someone will respond - is a third characteristic of an indian recruiter or a firm that hire indian recruiters.

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  • I say Regulate the bastards. There are great recruiters out there, and if they really are awesome, then they shouldn't be scared of regulation.

    Shit, you have to have a license and certified to Cut some ones hair or put some fancy finger nails on, but to get someones private information, have the chance to jeopardize their careers, muck someones life up, and betray confidentiality and mess with one of the most important areas of a persons life, their career, all you have to have is a payphone and a couple quarters to call yourself a recruiter? Something is wrong here!

    Yeah there are some decent recruiters out there, I know some of them. They are few and far apart. Guess that is because there isnt anything stopping them from calling themselves "professional"

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:39 PM  

  • I have met some decent recruiters but many suck! I just had one re-write my entire resume without telling me. When I asked why she didn't just call me first so we could work on it together, this recruiter chick said she was just helping me. Wow! She's so helpful. :P

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 4:55 PM  

  • Wow. I can completely understand the disdain for most recruiters. I even admit that a lot of what was posted is the truth. And I agree with whomever said the industry should be regulated. I am a recruiter, but not a headhunter from an agency. I'm a corporate recruiter and part of the reason for becoming a corporate recruiter is the despicable tactics agency recruiters often use. I'm asking that you not judge all recruiters by the same standards. Or simply work with recruiters you are familiar with. You as a candidate (if you're skilled)have the ability to drive the relationship despite what some may tell you.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 4:28 PM  

  • Hey there -- I get it, and have been working on fixing it for a while now. Of course, I have had some good experiences with recruiters -- I say the ratio is about 2 / 30 good / bad. One got me a good job years ago.

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    By Blogger Mark Radoff, at 12:11 PM  

  • I generally hate recruiters too; they don't care about anyone on either end. I am currently working with this one recruiter who is a truly incompetent flake. I hope she chokes on something and dies so I won't have to deal with her anymore. As it stands, I am tied into an upcoming assignment so I'm forced to tolerate her.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:35 PM  

  • Any monkey can match keywords from a job to keywords on a resume. That's what monster.com is for, why burden everyone with an unnecessary middleman?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:57 AM  

  • i worked on a short time contract with a recruiter for a two week contract. I ended up having to leave because it was quite a distance and gas price were very high. Well because I didn't finish the contract now the recruiter says he's not going to pay me for the days I worked. I should've known better to work with a recruiter.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:57 PM  

  • I have recruters. Some of them will take you out to lunch, and have you meet with their account manager. They will try and size you up and decide how to package and sell you. I agree, I think they are the scum of the earth. Two face back stabbing scum. They replace the archetype of what we use to think of used car salesman. The scum of the earth.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:20 PM  

  • I had a recruiter slam the phone down on me today... why!? you ask. Well because I'd already found a job and didn't take the one he was trying to sell me.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:17 PM  

  • Yes, recruiters are dirty scum! I am so happy to read your blog! I have been dealing with lying recruiters for 10 years! THEY ARE ALL THE SAME! Just when I thought I found an honest recruiter they prove me wrong! RECRUITERS ARE UNETHICAL PEOPLE! I hope you are right about the head hunting industry being ellimated! IT CAN'T GO ON!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:15 AM  

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    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:15 AM  

  • Ugh. I hate these people too! They "use" you. When my employer uses me, I figure I'm getting paid so it's okay. These people use you and I was too dumb to realize that it was happening.

    I think this lady calls in hundreds of people just to fill her database with candidates.

    She promises jobs, and then poof! she's gone and I can't get ahold of her.

    Such an utter bad experience. It's like, why in the world would I want to deal with this person again?

    I wish I could yank my resume somehow from her database. I don't want my frickin' data in her system.

    The only way she could redeem herself is if she called and told me they want to interview me...

    I get you're using me, but have a little frickin' courtesy and call back, or reply to an email. You can't be that much of a frickin' unprofessional, douche bag.

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  • Do you even need to have a degree or any education to be a recruiter? I don't think some of them even know how to read. I wish they all understood why there is soo much hatred towards them....

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  • In this terrible 2009/2010 job market I can count on on hand how many recruiters have called me back or have followed-up with me via email!

    What's with that? Are you so busy you can't treat people with dignity and respect? Remember times will change and you will want good canidates.

    I'm on my own for this job search. Recruiting is a job that is diminishing in this electronic age!

    Good Riddens

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 4:38 PM  

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    By Blogger Ross, at 3:44 PM  

  • I work for the largest retained search firm in Canada and I can assure you we are all not the same. Typically, it is those dealing with contractors, mid management talent that are most unethical.

    Whether you like it or not, you will never get beyond a Director level position without the assistance of a recruiter. The good news is, the further you move up the chain of command, the better the recruiter you will be dealing with.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:46 PM  

  • Ha ha, I just came accross this site which claims that recruiters will be a thing of this past. It is 2011 and the site was written in 2005. We still exist, thank you very much...

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:11 PM  

  • The number one way to identify a piece of shit recruiter is when they say something along the lines of, "We're not all the same". Fuck ALL recruiters, may you die a horrible death.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 5:01 PM  

  • Your comments about recruiters are 100% correct and accurate. I love seeing some of the same people comment in your post here. Recruiters are just trying to make a quick buck, off of others misfortune. About 99% of the time, they do not even "know" the field that the candidate is working in! This is very true of Information Technology recruiters. I talked to 3 recruiters this summer, and when the job did not fit my salary or any other reason, the job recruiters were like. 'Oh well I guess we'll try to see what else is out there' and then.. you guessed it *poof* gone like smoke. There is no "long tern" relationship.. if there is just one small thing that you do not like about the job that they are offering, "see ya!". It's all about them and their short term money goals, NOT YOU.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:15 PM  

  • Amen!!

    They get in the way and take the majority of our money as well as offer no benefits. We might as well work in a third world country.

    If more employers would have larger HR dept. this might change. The IT world needs to unionize and by pass all recruiters.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:13 AM  

  • Dear Evil HR Lady
    I do not hate recruiters, no,
    I admire physician recruiters!

    Here are the top reasons why I admire recruiters!

    They have a "positive mental attitude" (as written by Jim Stone of dochunterdiary.com). They are able to see a "great place to raise a family" and a "great place to build a practice", where I see just, well, Desert Gulch, a place where I would neither want to exile my family nor would want to build a practice. And where in general I would not want to be caught dead after sundown.

    They have magical, mystical, truly superior means of transportation, very much like Harry Potter's broom. A town they see as "only a short drive from LA" to me is 75 miles away and it takes me an excruciating 3 hours on a good day to get to the city.

    While they can "enjoy all Boston has to offer" from a small town on the New Hampshire border, I get frustrated with all the woods and rocks. And for me the hour plus drive to Boston pretty much takes the fun out of it. I believe one-hour commutes are overrated.

    They know much better than I what to do on the Internet. They know that you best use Google to "find physician recruiters where you want to go to" (Healthcarerecruiter blog), while I merely have been able to find employers that offered me jobs.

    They know that the "best practices" are located far outside the city, while I sheepishly was looking INSIDE the city for a practice.

    They know that a good job search starts by contacting a recruiter, one single recruiter, preferably in a small firm (recommended by recruiter Rebecca Gresham on a product-placement article on the otherwise very respectable MomMD), while I erroneously thought that starting your search by contacting recruiters is the equivalent of shooting yourself in the foot.

    They know that it is much more ethical and professional not to tell your clients about your limitations and they know that it is absolutely wrong to refer your clients to someone that might be better able to help them than you are. Meanwhile I am still making the horrible mistake of sending my patients to a specialist or a more appropriately talented or equipped colleague as soon as I cannot solve a specific problem myself.

    Imagine that!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:31 PM  

  • As a former recruiter, I left the industry specifically because I felt that it was completely dishonest and was really more of an unnecessary burden on society. Let me tell you about my gripes on the recruitment industry and recruiters in general, and the reason why I left it.

    1. Recruiters are SALES PEOPLE first and foremost. Their job is to sell a service at an extraordinary fee, which could often be done internally or by other means. They make it seem as if their candidates are the cream of the crop, and sell you on the capabilities of their database. If they are smart (which many are not), they will learn specific technical lingo to appear as if they have the credentials to hire for this role.

    In actuality, it is probably an History major who realized that there is very little career path for them in life, and so they pretend to have the credentials to staff for Engineering or Mining or IT. Complete bullshit.

    2. The vast majority of recruiters are LIARS. At the firm I worked in, they would "mine" resumes only to add them into the database, by posting fake ads on job boards. They would then sell clients on the "power" of this database. The truth is, these databases are laughable in comparison to those that are readily available online (ie. Workopolis, Linkedin). In fact, most of us didnt even use the database. We found candidates through using the online sources such as Workopolis, which is something that anybody could do.

    3. Recruiters add ZERO value to society (for the most part). This was my biggest reason for leaving the industry. The $30,000 fee that they charged to fill that one roll could have gone to hiring an internal recruiter instead. Someone who went through school and got their HR diploma, and deserves an entry-level position like this one. Instead it goes to the guy or girl with the useless degree. I really cant see how society benefits from recruiters at all. They are a pain in the ass when looking on job boards, and all you see is bullshit agency postings.

    To sum up, if you want to make a lot of money and add zero value to society, then join recruitment. But in my experience as an agency recruiter, this is the one industry I know of that is so incredibly draining on society. In my opinion, recruiters are just those suckers who either never went to school, went to school and got a useless degree, or got a degree but can't to find an actual position in their field. And the worse part is, once they join recruitment they grow a superiority complex. Before you say that I am just bitter, let me tell you that I was in the top 3 at my branch for my last year at the company. But I left because I was tired of the people I worked with, and I wanted to contribute value to society. What do I do now? Im a non-profit fundraiser and I LOVE MY JOB... The only part I hate? when I get an unsolicited call from a recruitment agency.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 4:48 PM  

  • I had a very bad experience with all recruiters in the UK. They gave me only cons, crappy jobs and position I was clearly overqualified for. Never, never never again I will try to get a job through a recruiter.

    Companies who turn to recruiters are usually the worst to work for - they are often try to fill a position nobody wants. Good companies do all their recruitment in house, using qualified internal personnel.

    By Blogger Ninuzzo, at 8:41 AM  

  • To be fair, let's differentiate between true headhunters, through whom I've been placed in two great jobs after their competent and professional labor, and other recruiters. At the other end of the scale are contract agency recruiters.

    These are the scum of the earth, the least educated, least professionally experienced, the least ethical filters in the recruiting process. The junior dweebs are typically a prospect's first contact. These agency scum are given a name and phone number culled by someone else with a job bank subscription, and attempt to interview the prospect for a job without even having seen the prospect's resume or the actual job description. In fact, I've found that the surest way to screen out these wastes of oxygen is simply to ask for an emailed job description. In my fairly accurate count, more than 50% never are able to follow through with a simple email of a simple job requisition. May they all go back to the graveyard shift at the convenience store.

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  • I had a recruiter desperately try to get in touch with me for a job paying less than I make right now, 3 hours away, and when she finally did and I said I wasn't interested, she told me to stop being so entitled when there's better candidates on the market. That should tell you all you need to know about third party recruiters.

    The vast majority of recruiters are recent college grads who'd be unemployable doing anything more difficult than calling/emailing developers and companies, and Indians being exploited in call centers.

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  • What the fuck is monster.com, if not an "unnecessary middleman"?!

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    By Anonymous Recruiters Map, at 7:01 PM  

  • I agree completely

    They are the worst sort of people to deal with

    they add nothing

    as you say, maybe one day there will be no I.T. recruiters


    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:39 AM  

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